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Beginner November 2023

Honeymoon cancelled due to husband’s ex

Ellie, on October 3, 2023 at 6:31 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 16

Venting.

This is a tough one. We’re having a destination wedding and including my 12yr old step daughter (FH’s daughter from previous relationship.) We had plans for my parents to fly her home to her mom after the wedding so that FH and I could stay abroad for our honeymoon.
Well, turns out that her mother (my husband’s ex) will not allow her to fly with my parents because it makes her uncomfortable. Keep in mind my stepdaughter has spent years getting to know my parents, they treat her like their own grandchild, and they are more than fond of each other. I have offered the mother several opportunities to get to know my family as well but she hasn’t been open to any of them.
Now I am forced to cancel my honeymoon because my stepdaughter is not allowed to travel alone with my parents, and we will have to fly back with her ourselves in order for mom to be happy. It’s not my child and I would never interfere with her mothers wishes, but I am stunned and incredibly upset. FH has spoken to her multiple times but hasn’t gotten anywhere.
Just venting. I can already see how this is going to be in the future!

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Latest activity by Tera, on November 1, 2023 at 10:15 AM
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    Skylar ·
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    Why can't she get her herself if she has such a problem with your plans?
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    CM ·
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    Because, obviously the groom’s ex wife is not particularly motivated to do them any favors. Unfortunately this is something that should have been taken into consideration in the planning stages. Destination weddings involve travel, added expense, time off, and logistical issues like this one.


    OP, I’m very sorry it won’t work out for you but this shouldn’t come as any kind of shock. The ex is not obligated to trust your parents or get to know them. I’d consider planning a more local wedding then a honeymoon as planned or postpone or downsize the honeymoon.
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    Ellie ·
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    I think she is obligated to meet my family if it’s going to cause issues like this. This is now my stepdaughter, and I should have the same rights as the other step parent. My FH took the time to meet stepdad’s family and get acquainted, and has gotten to a place where he is comfortable when they babysit his daughter.


    I don’t see why I’m treated differently. Anyway what’s done is done, this post is just to let off some steam
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  • Cece
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    Cece Online ·
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    What we have learned about custody over the past couple years is that when the child is with their mother, the mother gets to make decisions about where the child goes and with whom; and vice versa. Unless there is a serious safety issue, the courts rule that each parent makes those decisions when the child is with them. So ultimately, your fiancé’s baby momma has no say in whether the child flies back with your parents.
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    On a routine basis, most likely that is true. But there can be court ordered, or negotiated limitations on a parent's ability to take a child out of state or to allow anyone else to take the child out of state without permission. I assumed the ex wife had something like that in place if she's able to disallow it.

    OP, if you don't believe this to be the case have FI check with his lawyer.

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    Andrea ·
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    I remember my aunt having to have signed paperwork to take my cousin on a vacation out of the country once, and she was still married to my uncle. It was a rule to prevent parental abductions to other countries. So the mom very well might have a say.
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    Ellie ·
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    I get it, but this isn’t really about what’s legally allowed (we've traveled with her multiple times internationally over the years, including times when my parents were also with us.) it’s more about the fact that mom is choosing the honeymoon as the first time to conveniently have an issue with it

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    Andrea ·
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    I was responding specifically to the comment that the mom had no say if it wasn’t her time.


    Exes often choose the new wedding as a time to be petty. Unfortunately there’s not much you can do about it.
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    Rae ·
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    The Ex has no obligations to meet your parents. You just got married. Give her time to cool off and adjust, it kind of makes sense she wouldn't want to help accommodate your honeymoon even if it's not for mature reasons. The best thing you can do at this point is be kind to her and continue to build trust so hopefully she does feel safe down the road to meet your parents, etc. It's her child as much as his, not wanting her to travel with people the mom has never met isn't unreasonable.

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    Sarah ·
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    Have you and her father always flown with her on those other occasions? If so, this is totally different. If she's flown with just your parents before, I can understand your frustration. I have shared custody of my oldest for 11 years. Her dad has been with the same woman for nearly that amount of time, they've been married for 6 years, and I know her parents. I still would never allow my 11 year old to fly internationally with her parents.
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    Ellie ·
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    Sorry that’s ridiculous. This didn’t “just” happen overnight, we’ve been together for years and years and she has been well aware of our plans. She’s had every opportunity to get comfortable and hasn’t taken it out of spite. And now she gets to play the concerned parent card for no other reason than making sure I don’t get what I want
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    Janet ·
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    Like some have said, the ex is not required to meet or get to know your parents if she doesn't want to. That's her choice to make. When it comes to these issues, your husband and the ex need to stick to the agreed upon parenting plan. I am a child of divorced parents and my sister is as well. Unfortunately, she got the rougher end with a dad whose mission in life at the time was to make our mom miserable. It happens. Good for your husband getting comfortable with her step dads parents. That was a commendable choice your husband made, doesn't mean she is required to do the same.

    There isn't really much you can do about it. Just treat your step-daughter as if she was your own, don't talk bad about her mom within ear shot, and believe your husband and the ex are trying to do what they feel is best for their daughter (even if you may not agree).

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    I would suggest consulting with a lawyer. My cousin ran into this issue with his daughter (from a previous marriage) when he had to work abroad for several months. His new wife planned to fly out with his daughter, then her parents would fly back with her and deliver her to her mother, so the new wife could stay longer with my cousin before flying back. The ex threw a fit about it (completely out of spite). They sought legal counsel and it was determined that since the child was in the care of the father at that time, he got to determine who he felt was safe for his child to be around; just as the mother had the same right during her time with the child. It would be worth a phone consult with a lawyer to determine your options. Plus, it sounds like you and FH will want to know your rights going forward anyway, in the event the ex tries to pull this sorta thing again in the future.

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    I absolutely agree with this. Without a court order saying that she has a right to tell you that she gets to make that decision, father has the right to determine who is safe to travel with the minor child. I would definitely seek legal advice. Good luck, I know how working with a difficult ex can be. I hope you can get it worked out.
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    It’s true enough that the ex can may have leverage even if it is totally legal, ie not cooperating or being flexible when custody times or days need to be switched occasionally, threatening to bring them back to court for financials or custody, and of course influence on their daughter.


    I’m guessing something like that that may be the case here.
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    That is super unfortunate. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t be surprised. Ex wives aren’t particularly the easiest to get along with.


    Hopefully, you’ll get to have an international vacation for one of your anniversaries. Wishing you the best.
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