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Elopement upset from mom is extremely distressing. Help.

Heather, on January 20, 2024 at 11:32 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 3

There's a lot to this situation but it's important for context here, so here we go..

My fiance is from South Africa, I'm in the states. We have already decided that we need to keep the wedding small and just elope in Vegas, for these reasons:

- We must save money to start a life together. He won't have a work authorization for 9-18 months after moving to the states so every cent saved is important, for cost of living and for an eventual down payment on a house. I also work in the hospitality industry and eloping in Vegas is actually pretty economical compared to even local options.

- Living half a world apart through most of our relationship, we want to combine the wedding and honeymoon and have an intimate experience centered on finally being a married couple without having to entertain other people.

- Our parents are in the US (my mom), Australia (his mom/stepdad), and South Africa (his dad/stepmom). Getting them to one place for a celebration is not practical.

- I'm a second daughter and my sister had a big wedding. My fiance is an only child to his mom and only son for his dad. Neither of them could make it if we had an actual wedding with guests, and yet are extremely gracious and supportive about the elopement decision. Out of respect for them, we feel it would be more considerate to not allow any guests.

- We have elected to set up a Lovestream service and thought we would try to include family members with readings, stories, toasts... we want everyone to interact as much as is possible, with three different points around the world to consider. Even picking the time for the ceremony/reception is proving tricky. But I'm determined to give everyone a chance to share a toast if they want: even if it's with coffee in hand.

Anyway, my mother is not taking any of this well. My dad just passed away last month before Christmas and he was truly the source of her common sense, so in a way I feel like she doesn't have the ability to look at this practically like I can. Essentially, she has already decided and declared to me that she plans to be resentful for the rest of her life over not being at this elopement. I don't know how to navigate this at all. It was already hard enough for me to lose my dad (and her, her spouse) but now I feel like this is causing me to lose my other parent.

My mother is not able to empathize with the situation at all, or how my fiance's parents might feel left out. She's only focused on my cousin eloping a decade ago and telling my aunt--her sister--after the fact, and that this is entirely the same thing and if my aunt can be upset over her daughter's elopement, then she can too. When I asked what she thinks I should do differently, she said, "Just send out the invitations and invite everyone and if they can come, then they can come."

It's been the most stressful part of planning this, and we're not even at the part where we can pick a date yet (will probably be this fall though). What can I do differently to get through this and keep my relationship with my mother? Is there really anything when this is the mindset I have to deal with, or is it a lost cause?

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Latest activity by Adeline, on January 28, 2024 at 4:30 PM
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    Elly ·
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    I am so, so sorry for the loss of your father, and I applaud that you are trying to keep a level head while dealing with grief, and the stress of wedding planning and family dynamics.

    From reading what you wrote, I can only imagine that your mother is experiencing very deep pain, and feeling abandoned. By abandoned I mean that she has just lost her life's partner, and now she will be "losing" you as you embark on your new life as a wife. Your mom may also have conflicting feelings regarding that you are about to start a happy chapter in your life (and I am guessing that she wants you to be happy), while going through extreme grief. I am not sure how many siblings you have, or how closely knit your family is, but, weddings are milestones that parents want to be there for, and the loss of your father is just magnifying the loss and (probably) feeling alone. It seems like your mother's suggestion of "inviting everyone" would give her a reason for the family to come together for a joyful occasion that isn't a death, and have a reason to be happy.

    I will also add that from your post, I couldn't tell if your decision to elope was before or after your father's passing.

    In any case, it is not fair to you or the financial situation you and your fiancé are facing to have a large wedding. Maybe consider the following:

    1) Have a small wedding in Las Vegas where only your mom and your fiancé's families are in attendance.

    Pros: Keeps costs small, and the wedding has a very small, intimate feeling. Vegas is a popular destination, and there could be a chance for every parent to attend.
    Cons: Conflicting emotions between your fiancé and his families, and they may not be able to come.
    Questions to consider: How much time would you realistically spend or want to spend with your mother and future in-laws? When everyone makes an effort to come, you should make an effort to spend quality time with them. It is not a typical way to start newly married life, but your relationship with your fiancé, nor the city of Las Vegas is conventional. Maybe this could be a fun way to go on a couple of adventures all together (kayaking, a show, exploring/hiking, helicopter ride, etc.)

    2) Have a wedding in Las Vegas where you do invite everyone, but explain that this is a, "pay-your-way" situation.

    Pros: Family and friends can come.
    Cons: People might feel offended that the host is not reciprocating their effort by paying for meals, drinks, entertainment, etc. and consider you to be rude and/or greedy. It may not feel right because it comes across as if your mom is manipulating you to do something you don't want, and will ultimately look bad to the rest of your family (whether she realizes it or not).

    3) Include your mom and/or family to wedding planning and related activities such as dress shopping.

    Pros: Your mom might feel included. A good family dynamic might lend the the feeling of closeness.
    Cons: More stress on you to coordinate everyone getting together. Some may find it strange that you are inviting them to these activities but not the actual wedding.

    Regardless of what you choose, have a heart-to-heart talk with you mom about how you are feeling, and how you have weighed the options. Do tell her that you didn't want to do an out-of-the-blue elopement because you care about her and don't like the idea of just running off and keeping a secret. She matters to you, and you want her involved in your big day, but nothing about this has been conventional: Dealing with loss, visa, your fiancé's family abroad. Maybe even run her through the list of pros and cons you have considered when wedding planning and inviting family.

    If she does not come around, please realize that it is most likely the grief from losing your father that is still fresh. It is not reasonable to expect that someone will be "okay" after losing their spouse (especially if it was a loving relationship) within a year. Grief will come in waves. Ultimately, don't let yourself be manipulated or guilt-tripped into something that is not practical for you, but do try to be as gentle and understanding as you can.

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    I think in this case I d invite only the immediate family members (parents and siblings) to the elopement, if they can make it to Vegas great if not no big deal. Grief if such a beast and while I know you ve lost a lot too I can imagine your mom is seeing this another loss. I d do my best to give everyone including yourself grace. Wishing you all the best.Smiley heart

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    I'm so so sorry for your loss. I think you've had some very thoughtful advice. In that past, has your mom responded similarly when she doesn't get her way? If this is new for her, it's likely related as pp said to feelings of grief and abandonment. It's not an easy choice to make, and I feel for you.

    One point about logistics, the "pay your way" idea of one pp would be considered rude when you take etiquette into it. I would avoid that plan.

    I hope it works out for you!

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